Lee Jun-seok, leader of the Reform Party, and Jeon Han-gil (legal name Jeon Yu-gwan), a YouTuber who used to teach Korean history, held a no-holds-barred debate on the 27th with election fraud as the topic. The debate, broadcast live on the PenN Mic YouTube channel, pitted Lee, who rejects the election-fraud conspiracy theory, against Jeon's side, which argues the conspiracy theory is true. On Jeon's side, Kim Mi-young, head of VON, producer Lee Young-don, and attorney Park Joo-hyun joined as debaters, making it a "4-to-1" format. More than 300,000 people are watching the debate today.
In his opening remarks, Lee said, "I am the person with standing on this matter. In the 2020 general election, I won on election day but lost in early voting and failed to get elected," adding, "Jeon says I was elected in Dongtan through election fraud, but this time too I lost in early voting and won big on election day. For six years, none of it has been right—just a lot of noise rolling along as if it were the truth."
Jeon said, "I used to be a cram-school instructor, so why would I say these things for some gain? Until a year ago, I thought people who talked about election fraud were just making excuses after losing," adding, "But when discussions began on switching to electronic voting, I seriously developed concerns. Since Lee majored in computer science, he should know better than anyone the hacking risks and potential for manipulation in electronic voting."
As the debate got underway, Lee asked the four, "If you tell me when, in which election, and by what method election fraud occurred, I will try to verify it."
In response, Jeon said, "There is computer tampering, and there is also stuffing the ballot box with stacks of ballots like bundles of new bills to inflate the number of voters and flip outcomes." Attorney Park argued, "From design, bidding, polling, voting, counting, recounts, to evidence preservation, there is a cartel across the entire election process. The主体 of election fraud is the National Election Commission."
Citing the Manhattan Project, the World War II nuclear bomb program jointly pursued by the United States, Britain and Canada, Kim said, "Scientists, politicians and the military joined forces (in the election fraud)," adding, "On the Korean side, the politician was President Kim Dae-jung, and the scientist was An Min-woo."
Lee countered, "Are you saying even the Supreme Court, the prosecutors and the Ministry of Justice are all part of a cartel? If you cannot specify who did what, when, where and how, verification is impossible," adding, "If you just say that some unidentified person, influenced by Kim Dae-jung, caused defects at every stage like a 'Manhattan Project,' how on earth are we supposed to verify that?"
On how to verify election fraud, Kim said, "The simplest way is to check the integrated voter registry. Whether it is election day voting or early voting, there is a list of the people who actually voted that day," adding, "If we verify even one area, such as Jongno-myeon Jongno, we can reach a conclusion within three days."
Lee replied, "You're saying we should open the integrated voter registry, but that is resident registration information. Should we hand that to individuals and have judicial authorities verify it?" adding, "To investigate, there must be grounds for suspicion, and there aren't."
During the debate, Jeon said, "I'm not the one who should be here; Jung Chung-rae, leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, President Lee Jae-myung, and Kim Ou-joon should be here too. When Park Geun-hye was elected president, the one who made the election-fraud documentary was Kim Ou-joon."
Lee then shot back, "So why is Jeon Han-gil, with nothing better to do, copying Kim Ou-joon? Shouldn't he be the one to verify his own (election-fraud claims)?"